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Post by Koach on Mar 5, 2008 16:14:33 GMT -6
CONTROVERSY!! I love it! So here is the skinny...please read the article below AND endulge yourself on some of the Digg comments. Remember...THIS...IS...MEDIA!!! You can't always believe what you read/see. Let me try to break it down as biased as possible. 25-Year Old Woman is accusing three teenagers of raping her and video taping the sexual acts with a cell phone. She says that one of them slipped something into her glass of wine she was drinking when she invited the 3 boys over to her house. She recalls being fully awake/aware during the rape, but was unable to move her body. She never reported the rape. That is, until the video surfaced on YouTube, but was quickly removed due to violating their policy (nudity, adult material). Once she heard of this, she filed a police report.digg.com/tech_news/Kids_see_mum_raped_on_YouTube |
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Post by Koach on Mar 5, 2008 16:29:50 GMT -6
So, initial reaction to MOST people after reading the article is that the lady was a victim. Granted, the article was written that way, pretty much saying the boys were low-life guilty bastard even though there has been ZERO investigation done at this point.
A few things stick out. The obvious of which is, why does a 25 year old single mom invite 3 teenagers over to her house....alone? AND drink wine? Just my opinion, but I know 25 is still a young age for a woman, and they still have ignorant, irresponsible tendencies. I have a feeling she offered the boys alcohol as well.
I cant think of any reason, outside of mowing her lawn or painting her house, that a single woman would invite 3 teenage boys over to her house alone.
Also, I know there are statistics of women, a pretty large number, who dont report rape because they are ashamed or feel dirty. So I wont slam her TOO hard for not reporting the rape immediately. It is just kind of convenient that she kept this a secret until her reputation was at stake.
So, what do I think?
I think the woman wanted to have sex. C'mon, this is HUMANITY we are talking about We have seen/heard weirder things than a single mom wanting to get some action from some younger boys. She did the stereotypical, invite them to her house and give them alcohol routine. Then, they had sex. The video taping is iffy...did she know about it or not? Regardless of that, I still think that it was most likely consensual sex. The boys left and she went back to making hot dogs for her children. Later on, the boys...being boys...posted their adventures on YouTube. Once she found out and realized she could GO TO JAIL for having sex/providing alcohol to minors, as well as have her reputation tarnished...she did what happens to lots of poor guys these days...she cried rape. I am not slamming on women in general, but this stuff happens more often than one would think. Society is so quick to take the woman's side the minute she calls rape, and write slanted viewed stories like the one above, before getting even a SHRED of evidence. It's her word everyone is going on, yet people are ready to persecute this 3 boys who were probably just excited because they were getting laid by an older lady.
Anyways...ALLLL of this doesnt mean shit the minute this "mysterious video" turns up. I dont want to watch it, but it may be possible to tell if this was indeed rape or consensual sex, by watching the video. Without that evidence present at the moment, though, this is my hypothesis.
Your thoughts?
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Post by llael on Mar 5, 2008 16:44:06 GMT -6
....I dont understand why this is something we vote on...
Why its entertaining for you? This kind of "controversey"..
Im not voting. Im not going to be one to try to decide what really went on. If there was a tape, and the media-reporter you just saw, commented on how graphic and violent it was, why would you doubt someone..
This is one of the main reasons so many dont report josh. Because theres such a negative taboo that comes along with it. If you could ever feel that humiliation, and embarrassment, and mental stress, and horror, then maybe you'd back down from telling someone you dont even know? She kinda had to speak up, it was all over, people knew. If people already know, then if you dont speak up about it, its automatically assumed consensual, even if it wasnt and youre afraid and hurt and embarrassed and struggling within yourself to admit it happened. When something like this happens, its nothing to vote about and find entertainment in. Whether a cover up or not, any outcome is sad, and upsetting.
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Post by Kono on Mar 5, 2008 16:54:57 GMT -6
I agree with Josh's view.
Three boys, no motive to be over given... Yet. 25 year old mother, alcohol involved... I think I saw this in a hentai once.
Friggin' M.I.L.F. wanted all three of them. Ewww.
On a side note, your poll makes no sense. Your question is a "Choose a side", yet the answers are "Yes" or "No"...
Think moar next time, plz.
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Post by Koach on Mar 5, 2008 17:07:26 GMT -6
Yeah, i realized the poll sounded f'd up...but i could edit it after i posted...NOOOO!!
I clearly stated, Sam, that I wasnt drawing an end-all-be-all conclusion without the video...but since i havent seen it, thats just what i think of.
You didnt even comment on to why she had 3 teenagers in her house alone. With alcohol. Does that part just not matter because this poor woman got raped. I am not saying she was asking for it either, thats just ignorant. But just think about your life...or that of normal everyday people. Why in God's name...do you invite 3 teenagers over to your house all alone?
I dont LIKE the fact she may have been raped...it is sick, so dont accuse me of that. I LIKE the fact that people are controversial about it instead of being mindless sheep who are quick to burn these kids at the cross before any OFFICIAL police investigation has occured.
If the tape surfaces and it is clearly rape, then my hypothesis is wrong, that is it. I dont condone what the boys did, and i dont condone what she did if it is the latter. All I want is to see what everyone thinks about it.
ALSO...I put the "undecided" option up there for people like you, so you CAN vote...just pick the third button and press submit. I dont post these because I am a sick fuck who find entertainment from other people's sorrow, as you seem to think. I am merely an informant who would like to discuss world events with his friends and peers and see what everyone thinks.
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Post by llael on Mar 5, 2008 17:17:28 GMT -6
Im not voting, period.
Theres a reason people dont say anything.
I didnt accuse you of anything.
I also didnt say having 3 boys over w/ alcohol was right.
And I think pedophilia, for the record, ONCE AGAIN, is wrong.
Thats where I stand with this.
This poll is tatseless, and disgusting.
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Post by Koach on Mar 5, 2008 17:41:54 GMT -6
Im not voting, period.
Theres a reason people dont say anything.
I didnt accuse you of anything.
I also didnt say having 3 boys over w/ alcohol was right.
And I think pedophilia, for the record, ONCE AGAIN, is wrong.
Thats where I stand with this.
This poll is tatseless, and disgusting. ^---- is why i don't want Clinton in the White House. Stop thinking with your emotions and start thinking with your brain. |
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Post by Kono on Mar 5, 2008 17:41:56 GMT -6
If it's tasteless, how is it disgusting?...
How does something without taste taste nasty? Hmm... Odd.
o.o The wonders of the universe...
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Post by llael on Mar 5, 2008 17:59:42 GMT -6
Cute, you two, cute.
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Post by Koach on Mar 5, 2008 18:06:18 GMT -6
Sry Sam-Sam. T_T
/hugs ?
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Post by Sanjitsu on Mar 5, 2008 18:29:59 GMT -6
LOL. Wow, ummm. I'm calling it right now....You ready? Here's my hypothesis on this whole situation.....  That's right!!! people! She's full of SHIT!! Josh's comment hit the target DEAD on. She's a SINGLE mom, has already conveyed that she has 2 kids which means, if she's a decent mom, spending a lot of her time at work and taking care of her kids which most likely lead to her sexual life to decrease rather rapidly. On that note, she took 3 KIDS back to HER home and she probably did the gang bang with all 3 of them. Let's think about this...If it really was rape, I'm sure that these teenagers have some sense to not film it or post it on fucking youtube where their IP's could be tracked and inevitably tracked down. Come on now. Lay down the torches and pitch forks. When it comes down to it, if a woman gets raped and she knows who it is and doesn't report it to the authority, then, honestly, she gets no sympathy from me. Not to sound like a cold hearted bastard. But if rape is supposed to be this abhorring dastardly deed, why the hell would you not want some sort of retribution? But whatev. THis woman is definitely full of it IMO. |
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Post by Koach on Mar 5, 2008 18:33:14 GMT -6
Let's think about this...If it really was rape, I'm sure that these teenagers have some sense to not film it or post it on fucking youtube where their IP's could be tracked and inevitably tracked down. Excellent point. I didn't even think about that part. Sure there are douchebags who post youtubes of them chucking puppies off of cliffs, but RAPE. Who would post a vid of themselves raping someone! Thats just retarded. Now if they "got lucky" and bagged a MILF or something, I could see immature 16 year olds doing it as a sort of bragging rights. |
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Post by llael on Mar 5, 2008 18:51:05 GMT -6
Yeahhh.
/hugggss
Idk what you're apologizing for. You didn't do anything to me!
=]
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Post by Zyren on Mar 5, 2008 18:56:59 GMT -6
Too me, theres not enough information to really come up with any conclusions.
"Three boys aged 14 to 16 did it and it was set up by two girls," she said. "They came round with a neighbor I trusted and I had no problems with them coming in for a while."
Thats what the Fox news article says
This is why they're still investigating...yea, we can say that she faked it all we want. Sure its a possibility....but it still doesn't change the fact that the video shows her as a limp-noodle drugged up ragdoll.
Theres not enough evidence and information. Either/or it was a crime on both sides. Little kids raped her. Little kids had sex with her. I think they need to do some DNA testing...or I wonder if the drug has already left her system. And also, undoubtedly the kids had sex with her...and they're, I highly doubt they pulled out right before the climaxed. DNA test. More evidence.
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Post by Raenen on Mar 5, 2008 23:47:17 GMT -6
Yeah, it is hard to go either way without seeing the video. Rape is obviously one of those "hot button" issues where most people will never take the side of a "potential" rapist; be it a male or female. As I'm sure most people know, there are times where people claim rape when they weren't in fact raped. Am I saying this happened? No. I'm just stating the point that most people thus far have agreed with - just because it's on the news doesn't mean it is truthful. Point in fact... Thats what the Fox news article says Fox news eh? I think we all know a little about that newschannel and their deceptive library of propoganda directed towards the mindless masses. All in all, until more is reported I can't really side either way. BUT, it does sound interesting that a 25 year old woman would invite 3 teenagers into her house, not to mention the involvement of alcohol. Interesting indeed. |
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