What's our country doing?

[Kono]

So I was reading this...
search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/fl20080617zg.html

And remembered movies like Zeigeist and stuff...

Really got me thinking... Like, seriously. What the hell happened to those planes? What the hell is our country doing?

Maybe I'm being lame from playing too much MGS2, which is all about this kind of stuff... A secret organization of 12 men who REALLY rule the country called the "Patriots", the president just being a figure-head and everything being censored by them so they can make the public hear anything they want...

But, really now... It's pointless to talk about it because we'll NEVER know the real truth, but still, I believe it's a cover up. And I believe this country is going quickly downhill... Even if Obama is elected i'm not so sure we'll be able to dig ourselves out of the hole we're in.
Maybe even worse, someone will assassinate him and dig it further then it's ever been.

Alright, enough of that, but It'd be fun to hear everyone elses opinions on the whole 9/11 matter, the route our country is going in, and when you guys wanna look in to buying that boat to live out at sea we've always been talking about...

[llael]

Wtf, why haven't I ever heard the boat on the sea plan? Are you guys leaving me out of something again? I'll be the sneaky diver with scuba gear and I'll infiltrate that shiet. Better let me on that ghey boat of yours. Bishes.


On a more intense and troubling note.... Ya know, thinking about it now, Its sad, because if McCain is elected he dies of old age or something, if Obama's elected some jerkface is probably going to shoot him, and if hes taken out, the his VP hillary will be pres, then some jerkface will shoot her.
=/

[llael]

Kinston should have presented this to that whiny chick in his class that was pro amurikuh, pro republicunt, pro bush, qq'in about his conspiracy theories speech.

[Sanjitsu]

THere's already been speculation and huge conspiracy theories stating that our government allowed 9/11 happened in order to Infiltrate Iraq. It's not surprising, they did the same thing with Pearl Harbor in order to muster the country to go to war with Japan. I actually took a philosophy class that talked about the "true" democracy of America, which is, the non-existant one. It was a great class and I'm sure you all would of enjoyed it.

Long story short, if you were a billionaire, funding campaigns and funding government activities...You would ultimately have a "choice" in what you do. If you noticed, almost all of the billionaires know each other in some shape or form so it wouldn't be suprising if the billionaires of the world got together and gambled their country's progress or even citizens to past the time. Furthermore, the media is a privately funded source. Who funds the media? The same people that are the board of directors of companies like Wal-Mart and other multi-billion dollar companies. So not only are they hidden from the Media's grasp that they are funding, but since they are funding government activities and campaigns they can also use the media as a backing to shadow or skew whatever information they want to relate to us mindless sheep. It's a intricate web, but I 100% believe that the President is but a puppet that dangles from the strings of the Elitist. IF you venture outside of the elitists' opinions then you end up like Lincoln or JFK.

[llael]

I guess you thought I was kidding.
Where's my answer to the boat question?
I'll be on that boat.

[Koach]

To further back Alan's examples, you have to take into account the fear that the Internet strikes into the hearts of these "puppetmasters." Since the dawn of time, elitist groups have been able to keep tabs on every form of media that is unleashed onto the public eye. As the Internet becomes more and more popular, these same people realize there is nothing they can do to control what is said and done. So what do they wanna do about it? How can they stop "The Internets"?

Easy...gobble up the ISPs and instate net neutrality. How many stories have you heard from Japan, Korea, Germany, or the UK about government & monopolized data companies trying to regulate bandwidth and access to the Internet? I have heard none. The United States thinks they can do whatever the fuck they want because the "La Li Lu Le Lo" (LOLpatriots) have been able to manipulate and skew everything up to this point in history...why not now? It's scary, it really is. Do I think tiered Internet and paying per the byte iis going to happen? No. Its asinine to think so. But God knows the gov't will be trying their damnedest.

Was the gov't behind 9/11? YES! Have we ever landed on the moon? NO! Is the government covering up extra-terrestrial life? YES! Were assassinations of great men like Kennedy, Lincoln, and MLK Jr just the acts of radicals, or were they just the trigger men for the men behind the curtain? I think the latter.

You would have to be extremely gullible and closed minded to not even consider the possibility of this.

I always had this theory. You know how there are these books and movies that center around things like alien-life, government corruption, and underground societies? Well, I know the human imagination is a powerful thing, but to be the person who just sat there one day, out of the blue, and thought up something like the MGS2 storyline where everyone and their mom is corrupt and twisted, yet it all still makes sense...I mean, dont you think they needed at least SOMETHING to go off of?

As for Sam, you know we joke about things like moving to buying a ship and just sailing around the Caribbean and stuff. Its fun to think about, but sometimes I really wonder what itd be like. TO just be away from things like FOX News and poverty and bill collectors and racist biggots and mindless sheep.

[AmyLynn]

I never actually saw the video of the attacks because I was in the Army on Fort Bragg and when it happened we completely shut down. Noone was allowed on Post and no one could leave. I had to sleep in my office for a day until they allowed us to even go back to our barracks which were two blocks away. They thought that Bragg might be hit next since it is an airborne/special forces facility. We did not have a tv in my office, just a radio. Once I was able to be near a tv, I really did not want to watch. So, I did some research today and watched the videos online for the first time. I watched a few that show a bright light going off before the planes even hit WTC, which look like missiles. Same with the pentagon, the one footage that was released does not even show a plane, just a small missile like shape then the explosion.
What I don't get is all 3 planes were supposedly the exact same size, yet when a huge ass building such as the World Trade Centers gets hit it completely collapses and when one little corner of the pentagon is hit only that one little corner falls. And aren't these big planes that hit? Also, I do not see how a plane hitting the top of the WTC can make it fall straight down as if it was demolished from the inside. If you watch a video of, lets say, an old casino being demolished (a David Copperfield show comes to mind) the building falls straight down due to the explosives rigged throughout the building. I would think the part of the building that was hit would fall over to one side, especially since it was only the top that was hit.
It is all a little odd to me. I completely think the government is capable of being behind it. People believe what they see on tv, so if the footage was doctored or the news companies were paid off to only release certain info...well, then that is what the public gets to see and hear, how would we really know any different?

[AmyLynn]

Something else I just thought about...I cannot find anything about an casualties from the pentagon. Does anyone know if anyone died there? I find it hard to believe the there was absolutely NO ONE in that part of the pentagon when the "plane" hit. Unless it was set up, of course, and there was a meeting held saying "Don't be in that wing on this day at this time cuz we are going to blow it up...k thnx"

[Koach]

Actually...thats kind of how it happened. There were no reported casualties because the side of the pentagon that was hit was under renovation at the time. I think it was the Navy side...i'd have to check wikipedia.

But yeah...no one was over there. So...there was an 80% chance of hitting one of the sides occupied and a 20% chance hitting the side that was empty/minimal occupancy. Guess which side was hit....HMMMMMMMMMMM.

[Sanjitsu]

LOLOl that picture was epic. Dude, we gotta get a big ship and sail around like pirates! YAAAAARRRR




I call the Alias of Sanji!!!

[Kono]

A good movie to watch Amy would be Zeigeist... Sure, it's incredibly biased buuuuuuuut it still points out things that are also true.
The movie is split into 3 parts, the first being the whole religious debate on the bible and jesus christ
The second is about the world trade centers.
The third is about the Federal Reserve.

I highly recommend watching it, it's really good IMO.

youtube.com/watch?v=Mzciu8HvfwA

[om3ga]

Jun 19, 2008 9:22:21 GMT -6 Sanjitsu said:

LOLOl that picture was epic. Dude, we gotta get a big ship and sail around like pirates! YAAAAARRRR

sounds fun, just watch out for....

[AmyLynn]

Just don't get lost in the Bermuda triangle cuz that would suck.

[AmyLynn]

I am watching Zeigeist now, just the part about 9/11. I did not know there was another plane crash in Shanksville. Is that the one that they said the people on the plane took down the hijacker but the plane still "crashed"? The pictures and film of the supposed crash looks like it is just dirt. Doesn't even look like a plane crashed there at all.

[Kono]

If you have the time, definitely watch the part on the Federal Reserve... it shows just how F'd up this country is.

[AmyLynn]

I also knew nothing about WTC 7....I thought there was only two buildings, not three. Thanks for the movie link Michael. I did not know there was this much government involvement and coverup.

[AmyLynn]

I found this also.
youtube.com/watch?v=9WCc_y5k0n8&feature=related

You can see what happens plane as day.

[Sanjitsu]

lol I bet Kocurek would be teh first to catch the Scurvy :oP

[Zyren]

Woah woah woah! What are you guys doing!?!?!? This is CRAZY! Are you trying to get yourselves KILLED?! They have eyes EVERYWHERE!



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