Who is playing wotlk

[chibbiwon]

Just wondering who is playing wotlk? That is all.

[Seraph]

Kendra and I still have it pre-ordered

I/All of us who have these feelings need to finally wisen up and understand that MMOs are a WASTE OF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't play them for awhile and out of thin air all this time to do other things comes up! But then after awhile (WoW is mostly the blame) you end up hearing about the shit everywhere and then you start to wonder about it and finally at the end you give in and play the game again.

Only to realize a month later that it's once again just as you remembered a big freaking waste of time.

So here I am, with Wrath Pre-ordered. My real beef with WoW is the end game, boring, monotony, elitist bullshit mayhem. The majority of my issues with WoW is the social aspect of it and the extreme tendencies it places on people who more or less play more than others but require those who play less to play as much as those who play more just to achieve these virtual items that really after you get them, do not provide any real form of lasting satisfaction.

YAY I got my Warglaives...yay!...yay.....y..ah...ya....y. Now to do it again and again and again and again until the next expansion!

Even worse is when you're a competing type person who likes to achieve over others so then you see these, goofballs who have these guilds full of peons and over achievers who sacrifice sleep and housework to raid daily, players with better gear and it makes you feel "small" inside.

And then frustration kicks in and people try to do things they like to do like PVP only to get stomped by said people with better gear and that's when fights like Paladin bubble is gay and stuff occurs and afterwards everyone...deep down inside...feel a weeping tear drip off their heart as they realize this very true statement:

"WoW is a really really really gay ass game. It makes you fight among friends. The frustation of doing the same shit makes you testy and irritable and the fact that not everyone has the same goals in mind obliterates any sense of nakama feelings."

Weep WoW players, Weep. There is a reason everyone leaves WoW periodically. It's because WoW is the closest thing we have to a fleshed out MMO but it's definitely far from perfect. It's having a dream of the perfect drink a cherry coke but the only thing available to drink is diet coke. You're left drinking something like cherry but not quite cherry so you search for cherry coke...sipping everything else and finding out they too taste a little bit cherry coke but in the end they really taste a bit worse than diet coke so you're left going back to drink diet coke until hopefully one day you'll find cherry coke.

WAR sadily is still an infant. In two years WAR will undoubtly be a strong handsome adolescent but right now WoW is still the older trendy loser of a man and WAR is still the newborn child still learning to crawl.

There is no doubt, I get more things done, I go to sleep happier, and I wake up feeling better in a MMO-less world.

No doubt Wrath will be fun, I'm sure if I played it I would love the game again as I level up 10 more times and get new gear. No doubt my Paladin is better made now than ever before. I can finally see my shadow this time around.

But I also know in a month or two, the game will be the same cancer causing cesspool of a game and I will be left ITCHY to cancel the son of a bitch again.

[Koach]

Meeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

[Sanjitsu]

WoW can suck my afro wide ball sack

[Raenen]

I second that suckage. Although it's not necessarily wasted time, enjoyment factor aside, with no hopes of end game progression due to our schedules, and the overall emphasis placed on end game in WoW, it can suck a big hard rubbery one.

[Kono]

This is because we continue to look at the game as "Lets all play together."

And look how it turns out, every time. I'll save other games to play with you guys.

I'm gonna give it a try simply because I have it now, I never canceled my preorder. I think Josh and Chibbi will be playing... But I plan to actually join a guild and go at my own pace.

The game "sucks" because we're all... WE CANT DO ANYTHING UNLESS EVERYONE IS ON OMG WE HAVE TO MAKE BRAVEHEARTS AND NOT INVITE ANYONE.

When I was with Divine Might I had a blast. I could join raids when I wanted, do whatever. It wasn't a big deal.

Being in Ragnarok on WAR was fun too. Teaming up with them to RvR and all.

Israel has said it before and I agree, guilds kill the game. It makes a game that's suppose to be largely social into simply being a game filled with small sects of people all over.

Since we always play simply amongst ourselves we're unable to actually fully experience the social experience of WoW, joining a large guild, getting on vent and stuff to run things and simply mess around. There are people out there like us who like to joke around etc. as they play, people who do make the game fun.

I'll play. Hopefully I'll find a decent guild and enjoy it for awhile more. Even if it's just for 3 months... That's 40$ game, 15$ a month... 85$ for 3 months of entertainment. That's really not bad at all.

[Seraph]

I disagree I do not think playing with large guilds is "fun" or part of any form of solution. Neither is opening the doors to more players.

Most large guilds come with politics and frankly depending on how you join or when you join you're just a cog in the wheel of "other" people's motivational interests.

Why do you go on raids? Because they're super duper fun or because of the gear you can potentially get?

It's laughable if anyone says "because raids are fun". I'll give that to you the first time. I'll give that to anyone the first month of raiding the same crap. But after month 6, you're going to sit there and tell me it's fun to raid the same crap over and over?

The fun is in the idea of evolving your character. And if you join a BIG guild for that reason so be it.

The rest of us aren't the same thinkers or of the same opinion. So some of us have a legitimate need. Play with people casually or hardcore casual when permitted. I know of guys here at Statefarm who only quest and play with one another. They're perfectly fine with that. When one guy isn't on they do something else.

It is a stellar impossibility for us to do that. We tried and it failed, why? Because somewhere down the line people realize they're not having fun with their druid or with PUGs or with being left out. It's not fun waiting for the slow levelers. It's not fun to play this evening, etc, and the entire dynamic falls apart.

It takes discipline not fun to make many of our goals work. It takes discipline not fun to run a big guild or a successful guild. Quitting because it isn't fun isn't always a good reason. Especially if you quitting affects everyone in your guild.

Kendra and I played our new characters to 60 and then stayed that way doing BGs till the ONLY guy who started (take that back) who had to make a new character Billy hit 70. By that time, Kocurek was PuGing Kara, people were sick of crap Arena and BG. And WAR was coming out.

It's not just about big guilds, small guilds. There are plenty of small guilds with alliances doing their thing. There are big guilds falling to pieces, there are big guilds doing good as well.

It's discipline. It's a guild leader smacking down incompetence.

Except we're a group of friends with very little discipline to stick to the original vision. We all want it our own way and our way means not playing your agreed alt. Our own way is not playing at all. Our own way is quitting. And it fucks the rest of us.

I know perfectly well Kendra and I could play together, join a guild and probably do fine. But that's such a pathetic sight to see when you and all your friends, as close as we seem or claim to be, play a game on the same server but do not play together.

Numbers aren't the answer, never will be. Unless you have that perfect amount of players to not leave anyone out, you're ALWAYS going to piss someone off. And our little group...we're filled with strong personalities, with strong attitudes.

The single issue with any MMO any of us play is this from my experiences:

1) Accountability
2) We're only as fast as the slowest leveler.

When you quit or stop playing mid way, you need to feel accountable for fucking everyone else over.

If we want to play together then we can only level together.

I didn't play WAR for weeks waiting for you guys because I leveled quickly. Was my waiting in vain? Damn right it was.

MMOs aren't just "fun" times when you're accountable for other people's time and subscriptions. It's like a sports team. You can't just decide you don't want to play on a pre-arranged event because of something else you'd rather do.

I mean sure you could, you'd have very little consequence besides pissed off friends/players. So it's definitely an idea of taking people for granted, I'm guilty of it, I'm aware of it and I try not to be guilty of doing those things but when I see others doing it left and right, why should I hold myself up to a standard no one else follows to a strict level?

So does my opinion still remain valild with MMOs being a waste of time? Damn right it does. Well it does for me, atleast.

Kendra and I may do some WOTLK in the future, hell we might see you guys at level 80 when we're only 70, but it's such a true and ultimate shame to know we all play the same damn game and can't even cooperate together.

You are your brothers keeper.

And let's face it. In 2 or so months everyone will be cancelling their subs as usual because WOTLK isn't even a new MMO, it's an expansion to a game we've been playing for years. BC didn't keep you playing. WOTLK won't keep you playing. WAR won't keep you playing. FFO won't keep you playing. WoW 2.0 won't keep playing.

And you guys know that and I'm sure you're reading this and going "that's not why I play. I'm just playing to have fun for now, even if it only last 2 months or even 3 months or 4 months or a year."

To me, in the end, it's the same thing. It'll be the same feeling. "What a waste of time" after I cancel my sub and move on to the next big new thing."

I think I'm finally just old enough to finally realize that I can say "no".

/love you guys

Time for me to take a break from MMOs completely. Probably out of all of us, Kocurek knows the feeling best. Hell he's been see-sawing over MMOs for years. And I definitely see where he was coming from now.

Hell Alan should too with his auditing job now. I have a career now, I sleep at 10:30 usually every day and get up at 6:45. My work days are from 8:30am - 5:00pm. My days of keeping up with the Bravers are numbered. I'm a true weekend warrior not by choice but by life. I could put in a good instance or two a DAY and that's if we hit the ground running at 6:00pm every night.

There's always PS3. Hell I'll even buy an Xbox360. I just spent 100 bucks on Time Crisis 4 + 2 Guncons on a whim. I'm not rich but with my little life what I make is more than enough to fuel my hobbies.

Look me up on PS3/Home or even Xbox live if we decide to go that route one day.

[llael]

I'm pretty sure I'll pick it back up during Xmas break, if not I'll be playing PWI still. Both are hella fun and hella time consuming!

If I play WoW againnnnnn I hope Kinstonnnn will consider playing too? Please!!!! :3

[RiCEADDiCTBOY]

im loving it.

[Sanjitsu]

lol, I hate billable hours December 15...No more training salary, that's why I'm saying WoW can eat a dick...I can make more money or waste money playing WoW for 3 months? Hmmmm...I still need a 50" 1080p and a German Shepherd...T_T Definitely don't want the stress of having to play "catch-up" and play "catch-up" with my job.

[Zyren]

to WoW....and other pay-to-play MMOs! I'm definitely not going to play WoW...not anytime soon or again for that matter. If we all played, then it'd be safe to say that it would only last maybe a month? Over Christmas break? Its not worth it, imo.

Playing MMOs isn't bad...but playing MMOs efficiently and at a good pace with everyone else is.

[Raenen]

Yeah, with school this year it is hard to find free time at all, let alone the type of time it takes to be where I would like to be in a "good" MMO. As alan said, it sucks having to play catch-up in both areas - school and/or career, and your toon in an MMO.

Guess we're just all getting older and ultimately realize there are other priorities than being the next guy to wear that new armor that takes too much time to farm.